今天, 华尔街日报关于张化桥的英文书的书评
Eight Questions: Joe Zhang, ‘Inside China's Shadow Banking’
Only five years ago shadow banking in China was a sideshow, a way for small firms that have long been ignored by banks to tap credit. Today it's a fast growing – and evolving – mainstay of the financial system, but with little data available it's still poorly understood.
- Enrich Professional Publishing
One of those who has helped shed a little light among the shadows is Joe Zhang, author of “Inside China’s Shadow Banking: The Next Subprime Crisis” (Enrich Professional Publishing, 2013). A former equities analyst and investment banker at UBS in Hong Kong, he quit in 2011 to take up a role at the grassroots of China’s financial system, developing microfinance programs to help the small firms and entrepreneurs that otherwise have nowhere else to turn for credit. He stepped down after two trying years, frustrated by regulatory hurdles and institutional wariness against a type of lending that was only legalized in 2008.
Mr. Zhang’s book is part memoir of his time as chairman of microfinance company Wansui Micro Credit in Guangzhou, and part reflection on the need for financial reform in China. While much of what has been written about China’s financial system tends to take a sweeping overview, Mr. Zhang’s account is refreshingly anecdotal, providing a unique insight into the creative and sometimes sketchy ways finance works in China on a local level.
We recently caught up with Mr. Zhang to ask him about financial reform, regulatory roadblocks and where China's subprime risks lie.
You say in the book that Chinese people look down on
microfinance providers. Why is that?
Because of the official brainwashing in the past six decades that
private-sector financing is sneaky, dangerous and disruptive to the
existing system, and that high interest rates are immoral. They
totally disregard the fact that we deal with subprime customers
where risks are higher and costs are higher. We as a business need
to make adequate returns. Or we will not exist. It is as simple as
that.
The title of your book flags that changes in China's
financial system might be sowing the seeds of the next subprime
crisis. How might that crisis play out, and is shadow banking a
cause or a symptom?
I find shadow banking assets are very safe in general. We manage
our own money very carefully. Given the tough regulation, we are
not able to take too much risk even if we want to. But the rapid
growth of shadow banking reflects on the failure of the much bigger
formal banking system. For six decades, financial repression in
China takes the form of regulated interest rates being
significantly below inflation. That leads to rapid credit growth.
Banks are forced to increase loans rapidly year after year. But
sensible lending opportunities are not growing that fast.
Therefore, banks are forced to lower lending standards, leading to
growth of their own subprime lending. Of course, low interest rates
send false signals about the viability of loans.
How does microfinance in China differ from the model
made famous by Grameen Bank founder Muhammad
Yunus?
Microfinance in China is subject to widespread prejudice, and
unbelievably tough regulations. We would be far better off without
a license. Kerbmarket lenders have more flexibility and higher
efficiency. Compared to India and Bangladesh, our average loan size
is far bigger.
You’ve long been active as a champion of microfinance in
Chinese. What inspired you to write this book in
English?
I find that much of the debate among foreign investors and
academics misses the point. They mistakenly focus on the asset
quality of shadow banking, and the risks shadow banking poses to
the whole financial system. But these two issues are not important
in my view. I ask people to focus on the message the rapid growth
of shadow banking sends to us. Why is shadow banking growing so
rapidly despite a hostile set of regulations? What does it say
about the monetary policy?
One last reason: I find Chinese policies are increasingly influenced by foreign investors, academics and the Hong Kong investment community. I want to influence the influential.
You say that the biggest hurdle for microfinance in
China is opposition from regulators. Does that mean microfinance is
doomed? What needs to happen for microfinance to really take
off?
The Chinese regulators are not alone in discriminating against
microfinance firms. Other government departments, the banks and the
public are equally unfriendly. China needs a cultural revolution on
many things including this issue. I am doing a bit of educational
work. I am proud to play this role as a citizen.
If China does face the risk of having its own subprime
crisis, where do you think the weakest points in China’s financial
system are?
I see the real estate bubble as the most likely starting point of
the crisis, followed by local government fund-raising
platforms.
You note that China’s money supply has expanded
significantly more in recent years than that of the U.S. Is this
something we need to worry about? Given that China’s monthly
consumer price index numbers remain so low, why hasn’t it fed into
inflation?
In itself, China’s money supply growth being much faster than those
in other countries is not a worry. But at 16-17% year after year,
monetary policy in China is very accommodative and inflationary.
Credit growth and inflation reinforce each other, becoming a
vicious circle. That is a pattern for three decades now. We have
reached a point where the public has become very sick of it.
China’s regulators regularly exhort the country’s banks
to lend more to small and medium-sized firms. Is it fair to assume
that banks can fix the credit drought that small firms in China
have long had to deal with?
Big banks have a different cost structure and a naturally
bureaucratic decision-making process that is not suitable for small
loans, despite political pressure and their best intentions. That’s
not their fault. If you put me in the shoes of a bank president, I
would do exactly what they do. They have their daily imperatives to
deal with. But division of labor is a wonderful thing. Microfinance
firms are born to serve SMEs. The government and the public just
need to give them a longer leash. They will do the job well.
– Dinny McMahon. Follow him on Twitter @Dinny_McMahon